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PostSubject: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:40 am

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PostSubject: Wow!   Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:09 pm

This is one of the finest 1918 Mule I have ever seen! Its amazing because the reverse and obverse have been double struck which evident in the doubling of letters on the upper legends. The reverse also show that the die has cracked. Are you the owner? cheers
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:10 pm

Yes, I am the rightful owner of this coin. I also want to know the value of the coin. Any idea what will it grade if submitted to either PCGS or NGC.
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PostSubject: A PCGS MS-61 Specimen has an estimate value of $16, 000 - $20, 000...   Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:11 pm

Recently Stack, an auction house in New York offered one early this year for $16,000 to $20,000. Yours should never be very far behind . You could check the article on the web page of this site. What else do you have? You might want to share some more. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:15 pm

This coin of yours will be encapsulated by PCGS but may only be graded as genuine but no numerical grade because of a possible environmental damage. The brown coating on the reverse side on the date area is the culprit. PCGS are very conservative in grading and a slight problem in the coin will be rejected by them.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:49 pm

OK, if PCGS will only grade this as genuine, will NGC or ANACS certify this with number? or can this be conserved?
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:28 am

ANACS will grade them with number but they will put a detail reason below the grade. For example: US-Phil. 1918-S 5C. Mule F-15 Environmental damage.
In my opinion, your coin can be a candidate for conservation. NCS (Numismatic conservation service) will try to conserve them if they can. Then they will ask you to forward them to NGC for grading if they succesfully restore them to a normal piece. NGC owns the NCS.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:58 pm

Is this something I can do myself, like soaking/dipping in an acetone? From the picture provided, what is the detail grade of this coin?
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:13 am

Placed a little amount of acetone in a dish. Used a cue tip and moisten it with an acetone. Rub the cue tip gently into the toning part of the coin. This should removed the film coating on your coin. If this procedure won't work, then don't try any other forms of cleaning. Leave it alone.
Using other forms of cleaning method may harm your coin permanently and will be irreversible.
In my opinion, the grade of your coin is F-15. But grading is very subjective to each person even to all grading companies. Some might grade higher and some might be lower. The best way you can do is to submit them to ANACS for grading. ANACS is the most lenient among the 3 top tier grading companies.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:17 am

yes, try dipping it in acetone for a few hours, rubbing could leave some damage to the coin.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:31 am

Here is the result after acetone bath. Submitted to PCGS but came back as altered surface.

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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:10 am

the surface alteration was done before the it was varnished, not unless you rubbed it. Acetone doesn't do anything to the metal, it just dries up.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:16 am

There was no rubbing involved here, this was soaked for over a month and the brown stuff came off then rinse it with water. I believed that the previous owner altered the surface to hide something but who knows. My personal opinion is this coin looks good and I think this will grade at NGC or ANACS.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:44 am

A five centavo coin of that year I find hard to find, and am pleased to see one here being discussed, your coin, even with that surface, looks quite good and with lots of details. Nice pic!
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PostSubject: --   Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:21 am

there are some nicks. but in all it is good
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:11 pm

Surface looks white and sandblasted, could have been cleaned with some sort of mild acid bath, like vinegar.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:25 am

I'm a bit confused - is this a mule or the more common 1918-S minted with the correct obverse and reverse?

I'm trying to learn how to tell a mule apart. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:15 pm

This is the 1918-S mule with reverse of the coin from the 1918-S 20 centavos. Its very easy to distinguish because the date is smaller compared to the regular 1918-S 5 centavos and even from other 5 centavos (1903 - 1928). Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:55 am

I hope whoever owns this coin does not try to clean it. I think the best place to send the coin is Numismatic Conservation Services (NCS) http://www.ncscoin.com/
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PostSubject: Minana po.   Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:57 pm

Heavy patina and ding marks.



Obverse

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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:48 pm

GeorgeM wrote:
I'm a bit confused - is this a mule or the more common 1918-S minted with the correct obverse and reverse?

I'm trying to learn how to tell a mule apart. Thanks!

the shield the eagle is sitting on is slightly wider than the normal version of the coin.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:32 pm

I have a bunch of coins in my collection but have no idea what the current values are. can someone here give me their opinion as to the value of some of these coins? thanks in advance!



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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:01 pm

There are some Wilson Dollars at Ebay at the Moment. Depent to the grading justhave a watch

MS 62 http://cgi.ebay.com/1920-WILSON-DOLLAR-Bronze-MS-62-Red-Brown-/250786865234?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a640fe052
MS 64 http://cgi.ebay.com/HK-449-Wilson-Dollar-Silver-1920-NGC-MS64-Outstanding-/110668483400?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c45b0b48

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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:04 pm

Dalhin mo na lang sa darating na auction...itanong mo na lang sa mga tao roon kung magkano ang estimate nila dyan.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is this coin? and value please..   Mon May 09, 2011 3:38 am

and a double struck
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